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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by faivala
    I believe that they are faster than that though.

    Arround 11.0, some of them (specially the 800/1500 guys) have really good speed.
    Lagat has 1:46 for the half mile, so he needs that speed or at least arround 23 for the 200. Another example is webb with 1:43.xx, that requires a decent amount of base speed.
    O but im talking the 5/10k guys
    How much speed those guys got?

  2. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by Track_man
    O but im talking the 5/10k guys
    How much speed those guys got?
    I believe they never ever run anything below 400m in competition. Galen Rupp recently ran arround 50s (indoors), but they run from strength and not from speed (very poor speed reserve).
    If you are running 50 for the 400 / under 3:40 for the 1500 then you have to be able to break 12 or run very close to 12.

  3. #23
    im kinda suprised this is even being talked about...

    as far as i knew, it was known and much research has been done on it...

    long achilles tendons are important factors in sprinting and jumping...

    i dont think there is much to argue about...

    fibre types, practice, etc etc all play a role in wheather you can sprint or run distance...

  4. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by crazyhops
    show me a picture of these these men showing them to NOT have a long achilles...

    and, a very development soleus doesnt mean the achilles isnt long either...

    p.s.

    i have just look at pics of Dix and Powel and greene, and yes they have very long achilles tendons...
    Who are you comparing tendon length to?? Yourself?? Remember this is in comparison to the Black population and Dix, Powell and Greene have (IMO) very average if not shorter achilles than the average black male achilles length.

    Quote Originally Posted by crazyhops
    im kinda suprised this is even being talked about...

    as far as i knew, it was known and much research has been done on it...

    long achilles tendons are important factors in sprinting and jumping...

    i dont think there is much to argue about...

    fibre types, practice, etc etc all play a role in wheather you can sprint or run distance...
    I've never seen any research into achilles length and performance. As far as I knew it was a sound theory... however if it was so important then the top sprinters and jumpers would ALL have VERY long achilles, but many don't! Lewis, Powell, Johnson, Dix, JESSE OWENS.... If extra long achilles were so important then how the heck did Robert Emmiyan jump 8.86

    What you don't see is very SHORT achilles at the world stage....

    You can have all the type IIb you want and achilles up to your ears but if it ain't all wired right then it ain't workin!!!!

  5. #25
    Jonathan Edwards and Stefan Holm have very low calves. There are plenty of sprinters with (relatively) low calves, but almost none with wide hips.

    The physical (observable) characteristics that top sprinters seem to have are: Broad shoulders, narrow hips, relatively long legs, long achilles (double whammy of extra tendon and less weight at the end of the lever), small feet and possibly lark heel, although this is harder to see. Top sprinters also tend to be tall.

    I read somewhere recently that Asafa's foot is 289mm, which seems quite big. Tyson Gay seems to have fairly wide hips for a sprinter.

  6. #26
    well, ok but i disagree...many of these jumpers have very developed soleus's which does make their calf (gastoc) look lower when in fact they arent...

    also, you can NEVER say, that ALL or EVERYONE should do or be like any one particular thing...

    There are many examples of extremley fundermental and accepted technical models throughout sports which some of the VERY BEST seem to totally ignore...thats just sports and performance for you...(and please, i'm sure your aware that the Emmyenn guy should not be placed in any catagory with other athletes...

    However, i am positive that if you look at every guy under 10.20, under 20.50, over 8.30m, 17.20m etc etc and a very high percentage of them have long achilles tendons...

    1 or 2 or 50 pictures will not disprove this...

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    Quote Originally Posted by UKcheetah
    You can have all the type IIb you want and achilles up to your ears but if it ain't all wired right then it ain't workin!!!!
    Actually, I thought that I read a study where they re-wired muscle fibers to faster neurons and the fibers changed type. That is, you don't have type IIb *unless* you are wired right!

  8. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by xlr8
    Actually, I thought that I read a study where they re-wired muscle fibers to faster neurons and the fibers changed type. That is, you don't have type IIb *unless* you are wired right!
    Really? That is fascinating.

  9. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by walrusgod
    Tyson Gay seems to have fairly wide hips for a sprinter.
    Tyson Gay most likely doesn't have fairly wide hips. It's more likely that his gluteus medius is so developed that it gives off the illusion of him having larger hips than he really has.

  10. #30
    if it isnt wired right?

    what does this mean...

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