O but im talking the 5/10k guys
Originally Posted by faivala
How much speed those guys got?
I believe they never ever run anything below 400m in competition. Galen Rupp recently ran arround 50s (indoors), but they run from strength and not from speed (very poor speed reserve).
Originally Posted by Track_man
If you are running 50 for the 400 / under 3:40 for the 1500 then you have to be able to break 12 or run very close to 12.
im kinda suprised this is even being talked about...
as far as i knew, it was known and much research has been done on it...
long achilles tendons are important factors in sprinting and jumping...
i dont think there is much to argue about...
fibre types, practice, etc etc all play a role in wheather you can sprint or run distance...
Who are you comparing tendon length to?? Yourself?? Remember this is in comparison to the Black population and Dix, Powell and Greene have (IMO) very average if not shorter achilles than the average black male achilles length.
Originally Posted by crazyhops
I've never seen any research into achilles length and performance. As far as I knew it was a sound theory... however if it was so important then the top sprinters and jumpers would ALL have VERY long achilles, but many don't! Lewis, Powell, Johnson, Dix, JESSE OWENS.... If extra long achilles were so important then how the heck did Robert Emmiyan jump 8.86
Originally Posted by crazyhops
What you don't see is very SHORT achilles at the world stage....
You can have all the type IIb you want and achilles up to your ears but if it ain't all wired right then it ain't workin!!!!
Jonathan Edwards and Stefan Holm have very low calves. There are plenty of sprinters with (relatively) low calves, but almost none with wide hips.
The physical (observable) characteristics that top sprinters seem to have are: Broad shoulders, narrow hips, relatively long legs, long achilles (double whammy of extra tendon and less weight at the end of the lever), small feet and possibly lark heel, although this is harder to see. Top sprinters also tend to be tall.
I read somewhere recently that Asafa's foot is 289mm, which seems quite big. Tyson Gay seems to have fairly wide hips for a sprinter.
well, ok but i disagree...many of these jumpers have very developed soleus's which does make their calf (gastoc) look lower when in fact they arent...
also, you can NEVER say, that ALL or EVERYONE should do or be like any one particular thing...
There are many examples of extremley fundermental and accepted technical models throughout sports which some of the VERY BEST seem to totally ignore...thats just sports and performance for you...(and please, i'm sure your aware that the Emmyenn guy should not be placed in any catagory with other athletes...
However, i am positive that if you look at every guy under 10.20, under 20.50, over 8.30m, 17.20m etc etc and a very high percentage of them have long achilles tendons...
1 or 2 or 50 pictures will not disprove this...
Actually, I thought that I read a study where they re-wired muscle fibers to faster neurons and the fibers changed type. That is, you don't have type IIb *unless* you are wired right!
Originally Posted by UKcheetah
Really? That is fascinating.
Originally Posted by xlr8
Tyson Gay most likely doesn't have fairly wide hips. It's more likely that his gluteus medius is so developed that it gives off the illusion of him having larger hips than he really has.
Originally Posted by walrusgod
if it isnt wired right?
what does this mean...