Can Urban turn around OSU

[lr1400]

I didn't say USC was dominant in the 80's or 90's. I was implying they had a string of dominance within the last 20 years and they did.

OH, Michigan, Notre Dame, BYU, CO were not dominant in the 80's or 90's or now. Nothing close to SEC over the last decade or Miami, Florida State. I pointed out the Big 12 teams already.

[python023]

USC's "string of dominance" has been from 2002-2011, not 20 years.
Ohio St from 79-99 had only 4 seasons of less than 8 wins, and no school has a better record from 1979-2010. I'm not sure what the definition of "String of Dominance" is, but that might fit the bill.
Michigan won 80% of its games from 1970-1999. Ever heard of a guy named Bo Schembechler? That's better than Florida St with Bobby Bowden, far far better than Miami and Alabama over the same period.
Notre Dame has had several down years but the Lou Holtz Era of 1987-1996 produced 5 10+ win seasons 2 9 win seasons and 2 8 win seasons.
BYU had only 2 seasons of less than 8 wins from 1976-1999. Look up LaVell Edwards. Also won a National Championship and a Heisman Trophy.
Colorado in the 80s with Don James at the helm was an excellent squad, winning 75% of its games and the 1990 National Championship.

There was more to the 80s and 90s than FSU and Miami. A lot more. And where are they now? As I said, things come and go.

[devils]

Python

Just in the interest of keeping facts straight - Bill McCartney was the Colorado HC in 1990 for the title. Don James was the Washington HC in 1991 when they won the title by defeating Michigan in the Rose Bowl...

Not a big deal, but I'm big into football

[devils]

Actually, let's make sure this is a fair comparison. Bo Schembechler stopped coaching in 1989. Bowden's best string went from 1987 - 2000, when his WORST year was 10-2!
It all depends upon what year to wish to start the evaluation....FWIW - I'm not a fan of either team...

[python023]

I'm not trying to make direct comparisons on which teams are better or worse; I'm merely noting that great success has been found at many schools in recent history, North, South, East, and West. My mistake on the coaches, thanks for pointing that out!

I think that warm weather is nice, but it is more important to have good coaches (a common theme above regardless of which school you look at), good recruits, and good player development.

[devils]

Python - Agreed!