Glen Mills the first coach to.....

[lr1400]

Are these sessions running or lifting?
11/30 bench
10 X 160 (70%)
12/1 OFF
12/2 squats
5 X 340 (80%)
12/3 incline bench
12 X 150 (70%)

The weights is just the exercise name. The other stuff are the runs. The actual log has more description from Ato. Those runs you listed were on grass. One may have been uphill. One reason they were doing that was because UCLA's stadium was having work done on it and I'm sure because it was early season.

[lr1400]

Does this sound accurate?

John Smith takes 2-3 weeks to get people back into the flow of things. Smith actually breaks everything down and starts from scratch from the beginning. So while people are doing tempo for conditioning there are workouts (weekly) like 15X30m or 5X10+4X20+3X30+2X40 working on getting the drive phase going (right), and during this time there are 300's gradually harder and 8-9X200's extensive tempo. Then, starting in January, there are 60m sessions and 200-300 fast.

Sounds close. The starts..........there is rarely a volume listed but they are usually labelled as "easy" days. I noticed that as the 60's start to replace more of the longer runs the next day of starts seems to be shorter. The closer to indoor competition Ato seemed to do 10m starts mostly and less 20m and 30m starts. I am just going by my intuition and observation. Never talked to anyone who has trained there repeatedly unless lkh did.

[RB34]

Kool, I'll always stay with CFTS simple and str to the point...

Sounds close. The starts..........there is rarely a volume listed but they are usually labelled as "easy" days. I noticed that as the 60's start to replace more of the longer runs the next day of starts seems to be shorter. The closer to indoor competition Ato seemed to do 10m starts mostly and less 20m and 30m starts. I am just going by my intuition and observation. Never talked to anyone who has trained there repeatedly unless lkh did.

[Chris6878]

http://www.elitetrack.com/?ACT=25&fi...MSi&board_id=1

Notes from a John smith lecture

[100m001]

The best coach ever, no doubt about it.

With all due respect, Mr Mills did not come up with his training ideas on his own. Secondly, Mr. Mills lives in JAMAICA where he can pull from concentrated pool of talent. And lastly, the Jamaican culture supports track and field in the way that the United States supports football.

That said, it's obvious as to why Mr. Mills is successful.

[Chris6878]

With all due respect, Mr Mills did not come up with his training ideas on his own. Secondly, Mr. Mills lives in JAMAICA where he can pull from concentrated pool of talent. And lastly, the Jamaican culture supports track and field in the way that the United States supports football.

That said, it's obvious as to why Mr. Mills is successful.

Sounds like you got some hate in those words. So any coach would've taken bolt from 20. To the world record in the 1 and 2 because bolt is talented? Mills should leave jamaica and prove himself in another country to show you? Jamaica is still a poor country. Comparing them to the us in anything is ludacris.

So the coach for David rudishia happened to coach multiple 800 meter wr holders and Olympic medalists. I guess he is that good a coach because he has a concentrated pool of talent, and Africa supports the 800 the way the US supports football? Am I correct

[lr1400]

http://www.elitetrack.com/?ACT=25&fi...MSi&board_id=1

Notes from a John smith lecture

By using various lecture notes and articles like these you can figure out what Smith is doing. It's very similar to Tom Tellez imo.

[Stikki]

With all due respect, Mr Mills did not come up with his training ideas on his own. Secondly, Mr. Mills lives in JAMAICA where he can pull from concentrated pool of talent. And lastly, the Jamaican culture supports track and field in the way that the United States supports football.

That said, it's obvious as to why Mr. Mills is successful.

Mills is a great coach because he doesn't ruin talented athletes. Yes, he has great talent to work with but so do others. How many All-American high school athletes have been ruined by the US collegiate system? Great coaches don't make sprinters, they coax every once of talent out of them. And that is not easy to do, especially repeatedly.

[John]

Well bud winter Coached starting in the 1940s so I doubt he stole anything from charlie

http://www.budwinter.com/videos/

[syrus2001]

Mills is a great coach, and so is John Smith. Bud Winters was good at the time. But come on, he was one of the first guys to coach black sprinters. You can't tell me that whatever he did people would think that it was his methods that built these guys. Read his old books, they are brutal! Biomechanics have evolved since then. He recommends reaching forward, unhinging at the knee, his rationale was that this is how horses ran. His start philosophy was to throw your hand forward, and his basic arm swing mechanics was to run with more of a sawing motion. At the time, this may have been good, but you can't tell me that we don't know more now then we did then.

I was talking to an old school coach the other day and he was trying to tell me how tempo running is the key to running fast because Glenn mills and all the jamaicans do it based on bud winters stuff. Thats just dumb. Specificity wins always. Do real sprint work to get faster. I would look to what countries to well in track despite their lack of genetic talent, and theres a country that knows how to get the most out of their athletes. I'm very impressed with Russia. 8 gold medals in track, with what I would consider sub optimal genetics. Sport science has evolved since then. Having genetic talent is number 1, but don't try to deduce what the best training program is using freak athletes.