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Thread: Undertraining Vs Overtraining

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    Undertraining Vs Overtraining

    Athletes in general are competitive animals. In the weights room constant 'pushing' can be detrimental for the following reasons:

    1. Technique and form degrade increasing injury risk.
    2. Postural changes may actually decrease the stimlus on a target muscle group.
    3. Stress on the nervous system is pronounced and can cause overtraining.
    4. Equal or greater force can be exerted with sub-maximal loads due to the velocity of movement.

    Undertraining Vs Overtraining? I vote for the former, Less is more!

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    David,
    Good points. I agree with you. If you over-train, you are basically opening pandora's box of injuries and CNS overload. Glad to know that this fine core of forum members would never get into these situations

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    I think sprinters tend to push too hard in the weight room because they lose sight of how the weights fit into the overall picture. Sprinting is the primary high intensity stimulus in the training. The weights merely supplement that. Pushing too hard in the weight room is inevitably the result of overestimating the importance of weight training relative to sprint work. I think if athletes and coaches think of output in the weight room as more a reflection of output on the track, rather than the other way around, they're more likely to place primary emphasis where it belongs and avoid over extending in the weights.

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    You can use overtraining as a tool as well...

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    You can (e.g., shock cycles), but I think that's playing with fire. You have to REALLY know what you're doing.

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    You can use overtraining as a tool as well...
    How do you mean exactly CoolColJ? I believe the overtraining that Flash and the others are writing about already has a negative impact on overall training. More specifically I think they saying that when an athlete is overtrained, the extended recovery time negates any sort of increase in performance that the athlete may have had. I could just be misunderstanding everyone though.

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    you are on it Herb

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    Off season playtoy

    Well this is only something you do in the offseason off course, but you would ramp up volume over a short period of time, say 3-4 weeks, to maximally stress the body's recovery system, and then back off and increase the quality and intensity of training. The body will over-shoot its super-compenstation capabilities due to the lag factor. Then you will get a heightened training effect for the next few weeks, perhaps as long as 6-12 weeks.

    Its called "Concentrated Loading". It is difficult to walk the fine line, but the few times I have tried this for strength purposes, I've had nothing but great results

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    Cool.
    Do you lower the intensity or maintain? Also, are you then suddenly dropping the volume after the 3-4 week cycle and increasing intensity at same time? It seems that during the 3-4 week cycle you would see some hypertrophy due to the larger quantities and lower intensities (from what I understand). Is this something you want or considered? Can you post an example of this workout for us to read? Thank you

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    I posted about this in the old forum

    Just be aware that you will feel like trash, and speed/strength ability will plummet, but once you back off, things start getting better in a hurry. And also I wasn't doing much of anything but weights during the loading phase, but that changed once I backed off.

    Here is what I did the first couple of times I tried this. I have a different approach now, but same principles apply

    start from here and follow the thread

    http://www.charliefrancis.com/board/...p;recordnum=20

    Yes I did gain lots of hypertrophy, but that as one of my goals as well, Even now with my more speed and strength orientated workouts, I keep piling on size !! It's how I am, being so white fiber heavy, so why fight it?
    I'm not losing peformance, but gaining so its all good.

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