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  1. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by Clemson
    I guess I am a sleaz-ball!
    Sorry, I don't hold anything against any of T-nation's contributers simply because they write article for the site, it's the operation as a whole and the guys who run it who I think are sleazy........ most of the people affiliated with T-Nation probably don't even know that it's sleazy because they have so much faith in the legitimacy of the site and the information provided....... but, i'm sorry, it really isn't that remarkable.... just more people with more opinions... they aren't any better than the thousands of other S&C coaches and training "theorists" in the world...

  2. #12
    Quote Originally Posted by kevinG
    sorry, but t-mag is all about nothing more than selling supplements. people want to believe that it's an intellectual wellspring for bodybuilders and athletes, but the simple fact is that the site exists for no other purpose than to attract customers to biotest. Their strategy is to develop a following and make people think they're legit by publishing training information, and then extend that credibility to their supps. It's sleazy as hell if you ask me
    ....bullshit

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    Just to name a few more...Charlie, Defranco, and Berardi have also written a few articles on there. Are they sleaze balls? I am not saying every article is great nor am I saying t-nation don't have a big marketing thing going on but I def. think there is alot of good and interesting info. on it which is much better than the mainstream garbage you read in muscle and fitness and mens health.

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    I'm not really going to comment on Waterbury. All I can say is I really don't read any of their program articles, maybe Thibadeau's just for some knowledge that may be contained in it.

    T-mag isn't sleazy. Yes a lot of their articles are nothing more than Surge advertisements, but there are a great deal of legitimate articles. Dan John is great, Mike Robertson and Eric Cressey write very sound articles that are based in fact and not stuff they pull out of their ass. Thibadeau provides a great deal of information why you should do something, not just telling you do this and you'll get big. Berardi's knows his stuff, but get's repetitive (If you read a few of his best articles you've read them all, actualy doing it's the hard part) and sometimes he skews the facts.

    Money makes the world go round........ deal with it.

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    I often am amazed at how many articles someone can write in such a short space of time ... must have plenty of time off to write?

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    Quote Originally Posted by QUIKAZHELL
    Just to name a few more...Charlie, Defranco, and Berardi have also written a few articles on there. Are they sleaze balls? I am not saying every article is great nor am I saying t-nation don't have a big marketing thing going on but I def. think there is alot of good and interesting info. on it which is much better than the mainstream garbage you read in muscle and fitness and mens health.

    2,000 posts!!!
    What's wrong with an outlet for training info sponsord by a supplement co? It's free to you and you can accept or reject the info provided. Some is bad- but much is good also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Francis
    What's wrong with an outlet for training info sponsord by a supplement co? It's free to you and you can accept or reject the info provided. Some is bad- but much is good also.

    My thoughts exactly

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    Quote Originally Posted by QUIKAZHELL
    Just to name a few more...Charlie, Defranco, and Berardi have also written a few articles on there. Are they sleaze balls? I am not saying every article is great nor am I saying t-nation don't have a big marketing thing going on but I def. think there is alot of good and interesting info. on it which is much better than the mainstream garbage you read in muscle and fitness and mens health.

    2,000 posts!!!

    Charlie and defranco no
    Berardi quite possibly. He has a habit of making things seem far more scientifically sound than they are.

    I agree though.
    Its up to the reader to decipher the crap from the good stuff...
    It would be hard for the beginner though.
    One thing good about t-mag is that they are pretty fair in the way they allow their writers to disagree. When Eric disagreed with Davies it was okay and they let the argument play out.
    Some of the stuff they do is sleazy though. Ive heard a few stories about the way they treated some of their members and even writing staff... Also they use the exact same advertising methods that in the beginning the claimed not to and ridiculed ie 4000% better. Myostat is awesome etc etc etc

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    That's why I don't go there anymore. I couldn't stand all those brown nosing posters anymore.

    "Oh My gawd! that's like soooooo awesome program!" bleeh....

    It's a good place for newbies and intermediate but for guys with tons of knowledge, it's such a turn off.

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